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Created by John Eipper on 06/10/05 7:50 AM - the-kahazar-conversion

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The Kahazar conversion (John Eipper, USA, 06/10/05 7:50 am)

Alberto Gutierrez writes: After a brief trip to Madrid I have resumed the reading of WAIS postings. There I celebrated the French and Dutch votes against the EU constitution. I am not fan of the EU and very much agree with Tim Brown and Christopher Jones. A little wonder is that many Madrile os are not happy with the euro and miss the peseta. Particularly the price of a "piso", a flat, has reached an exorbitant figure.

I am surprise to hear about the theory of Khazar conversion concocted by the Catholic priest Justin Pranaitis. I am not an expert on the subject, but the way I see it, the chapter "Conversion" from the book The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler provides enough evidence >from the "Bibliographical Encyclopaedia" by Ibn Nadim, Book of Kingdoms and Roads by Al-Bakri, the travelogue of Rabbi Petachia from Ratisbone, etc, that the Khazars converted to Judaism. Finally when Gengis Khan overwhelmed Khazaria, they migrated to Poland and developed the cradle of Western Jewry.

RH: I am skeptical about the relationship betwen the Euro and inflation and await expert opinion. On Koestler's theories I am incompetent to express an opinion. Here is what Wikipedia says: Koestler's book The Thirteenth Tribe advanced the controversial conclusion that European, or Ashkenazi Jews, are not descended from the Israelites of antiquity, but from a group of Khazars, a people in the Caucasus who converted to Judaism in the 8th century and were later forced to move westwards into current Russia, Ukraine and Poland. Koestler stated that part of his intent in writing the book was to defuse anti-Semitism by undermining the identification of European Jews with the Jews of the Bible, rendering anti-Semitic epithets such as "Christ killer" inapplicable. Ironically, Koestler's thesis that Ashkenazi Jews are not Semitic has become an important claim of many anti-Semitic groups. Some Palestinian advocates have adopted this thesis quite eagerly, since they believe identifying most Jews as non-Semitic would seriously undermine their historical claims to the land of Israel. The main thesis of The Thirteenth Tribe has since been debunked by genetic testing; while there has been mixing with various European populations by Ashkenazi Jews over the centuries, there remains a clearly identifiable Middle Eastern genetic element in virtually all Ashkenazim.

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