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PostNasser and the Jews; a Response to Eugenio Battaglia (Istvan Simon, USA, 04/04/18 3:53 am)
Eugenio Battaglia's opinions strike me as having a consistent theme. In all of this, he dislikes democracies, and loves dictatorships. For example, he will ignore the assassination of Israeli athletes in Munich 1972, but will bring up unproven allegations of Mossad's supposed involvement in a 1962 assassination (April 2nd). Eugenio never gives sources for his allegations; we are just supposed to all accept his "inside" knowledge of these events.
800,000 Jews were expelled from Nasser's Egypt with nothing more than the shirts on their backs, their property confiscated without compensation, forced to take refuge wherever they could. Three of them were my schoolmates in Brazil: Alain Bigio, Claudio Habert, and Gabriel R. Bitran. I am just reading the book of my friend Alain Bigio, who was born in Cairo in 1944, and I have nominated Alain to join WAIS.
Alain Bigio wrote a book about his experience of moving from Ismaelehyah in Cairo to Higinenopolis in São Paulo, Brazil. He, like Claudio Habert and Gabriel R. Bitran, were all born in Egypt, where their families had lived for centuries. They were unlucky to have been born Jews, so Nasser had no place for them. He expelled their families and confiscated their properties. I'd guess that in some WAISers' minds, who view Nasser favorably, my friends should have been grateful that Nasser did not kill them, too. Thanks for small favors.
But I digress. Eugenio does not seem to mind that the Skripals have been horribly poisoned with a nerve agent, for basically no purpose, in a democratic country, that hundreds of Russian diplomats were expelled from many many countries as a result. What he laments is not the horrible homicidal deed of the Putin regime; he laments that Italy also expelled Russian diplomats.
In the opinion of this observer, Eugenio's priorities are hopelessly mixed up and he is on the wrong side in most cases that I can think of.
JE comments: WAIS is about a diversity of civilized views. Mossad's involvement in Heinz Krug's disappearance has never been proven, but isn't that usually Mossad's intent?
Regardless of the Krug incident, Eugenio Battaglia's "Bastian Contrario" posts force us to question our complacent, Manichean assumptions about the goodness of Western liberal democracies.
We'll hear next from Eugenio, by the way.
Nasser's Expulsion of Jews, Christians (from Gary Moore)
(John Eipper, USA
04/05/18 4:02 AM)
Gary Moore writes:
Serendipity again. Just before seeing Istvan Simon's post (April 4) on the Jews expelled
from Nasser's Egypt, I was looking at an email from a friend, the Latin American regional
manager for a multinational, whose family, being Egyptian Christians (and his mother
was foreign, from Austria) were also pushed out of Nasser's Egypt.
I gather that his father's
confiscated business was a traumatic total loss, and they wound up as impoverished
immigrants in northern Canada. He worked his way back up from there. Many stories
lie behind the facile visions Istvan was criticizing.
JE comments: Who will give us an update on Egypt's Coptic community? (Attention: Ed Jajko.)
Reports estimate the Christians at 5%-10% of the total population, but their numbers have been declining of late. By the way, President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi was just reelected with (gulp) 97% of the vote. Putin's latest victory, at 77%, was a nail-biter in comparison. Trump placed congratulatory calls to both.
Wasn't Nasser more interested in confiscating Jewish and Christian property than in religious persecution per se? (Is there really any difference--especially when it happens to you?)