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More Thoughts on "God for Atheists and Scientists" (Tor Guimaraes, USA, 10/29/16 4:01 pm)

Some of the conclusions that struck me the hardest after reflecting on my book God for Atheists and Scientists are:

1.  Power based on validated scientific knowledge lasts forever and impacts all people in the real world; religious knowledge is only myth in the view of followers of other religions; thus it has limited power because it cannot withstand intellectual scrutiny.

2.  Religious knowledge has never and will never supplant established scientific knowledge, but the reverse has historically happened whenever they clashed.

3.  Because scientific knowledge can be so powerful as to create new technology useful for all kinds of innovation, any nation dedicated to implement the measures necessary to quickly develop scientific knowledge in all areas would become dominant in a few decades.

4. Given the historical evidence, government policy must be based on the best scientific knowledge available at the time, not on anyone's religious opinion and beliefs.

5. The insidious problem with religions is their assumption that they know the truth while science questions everything to finally arrive at the truth. Some brilliant human once said that the opposite of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion that we know the truth.

6. Love your children, teach them about God the Universe and the beauty and power of science broadly defined, and instill in them the Golden Rule (Don't do to others what you wish not done to you); that is all they need for a happier and more productive life.

7. Religious fundamentalism has become a major problem in many countries and for the world, prompting a clash of civilizations. Would it not be wonderful if people could replace their insane fundamentalism based on imaginary gods with a religion based on the truth about the real world?

8. Behavior is the true indicator of a person or a group's true religion and god; increasingly it seems to be money, power, self-indulgence, narcissism, etc. Humans are adept at fooling themselves and other people. If a person or group declares itself to be a believer in a particular god, accept the declaration gracefully but reserve any judgment until you can assess the person or nation's behavior.

JE comments:  Here, once again, is the link to purchase Tor's book.  I hope someone in WAISworld will upload their thoughts as a review.  (Hint hint...John Heelan?)



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  • God, the Universe, and God the Universe (Francisco Wong-Diaz, USA 10/30/16 5:17 AM)
    I have given some thought to Tor Guimaraes's phrase "God the Universe," and concluded that it is not satisfactory.

    God is infinitely greater than all Creation. The Universe is just creation.  (See www.scborromeo.org)

    The human mind is incapable of understanding God. He holds the universe in the palm of his hand...that is how insignificant we are.

    JE comments: Can an entity exist outside the universe/Universe?  These are theological questions--matters of faith alone.

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  • God the Universe and Climate Change (Francisco Ramirez, USA 10/30/16 5:21 AM)
    A question for Tor Guimaraes: What does God the Universe say about climate change deniers and their suitability for high office?

    JE comments: Tor can answer this better than I can, but I suspect his reply would have to do with the scientific community's ability to replace ideological prejudice/superstition with hard facts derived from the Scientific Method.


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